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Reg Amoah's avatar

Thanks for your article John

Your desire with greater nuance and context with greater focus on class background and cultural differences when it comes to racial justice is needed in this discussion. The challenge of racism is indeed far more complex than most of us imagine and therefore so is trying to bring people with us on this journey. Thee are missing links in the the chain to understanding the disparities between different ethnic groups alongside the different cultural practices. Part of this is an acknowledgment and understanding of how British colonialism was applied to differently across Asia, Africa and the Caribbean. The challenge of adaptation to the different levels of imposition informed such factors as cultural preferences and patterns, social class, marriage and fathering. I think encouraging greater study and awareness could help with context for those who have genuine interest in understanding holistically racial justice which overlaps with class and other forms of injustice.

With regards to white English people who genuinely feel that status comes from the sense of solidarity in being with people who share their background, history, interests and locality. I would argue that this is a challenge and an opportunity to build bridges and this must be a focus of racial justice. Background differences can be overcome where commonality is found. I'm old enough to remember when we were told to be worried about an imminent invasion of Poles, Romanians and Bulgarians and then years later we were invited to open our homes to Ukrainians. British expansion means we share a history with many part of the world and where that is taught we can find commonalities .

However narrative of competing rather than shared interests does appear to be the dominant but as a church we should be challenging this. So I agree with your premise that class should be discussed alongside race as long as we can agree that the English working class may not necessarily all look and sound the same but share a similar historical relationship to power.

Greg Smith's avatar

Thanks John,

I think you are right to critique a unidemnsional understanding of racial justice.. there is complexity and intersectionality to be taken into account always and the two sermons you critique dont seem to do that.. maybe it is because it is a very broad brush offering for racial justice Sunday and the assumption they are addressing white middle class Anglicans.. I don't find the football players and managers example convincing, we are talking about a global international pool for both, and judging from West Ham some fairly random decisisions about who to buy and employ...(with maybe a little more hope since appointing a black Portuguese manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Esp%C3%ADrito_Santo .

I am rather surprised at +Anderson.. I know he understands the complexity and intersectionality issues... and his work on Dalit theology is interesting.

You might like to read this... Tariq Modood and John Denham are doing some interesting thinking on English /working class identity and redefining multiculturalism... I don't hear much talk about this in church circles https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/multicultural-nationalism-and-the-white-working-class/

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